The 27 Nosler, like its counterparts across the family of Nosler cartridges, has raised the performance bar when it comes to the .277. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Mag. The conventional (and mostly misguided) wisdom is that an elk cartridge should have 1,500 foot pounds of energy at the distance from which you shoot. The first has a higher muzzle velocity of 3246 FPS (chronographed on a ProChrony Digital) with a lower G1 ballistic coefficient of 0.496 while the later has a lower muzzle velocity of 3121 . Manufactured by Nosler as part of their Trophy Grade Ammunition lineup and loaded with the legendary Nosler Partition bullet, this is hands down the best 28 Nosler ammo for elk, moose, or bear hunting at shorter ranges. The new Sig round is wildly different than any other .270 cartridge because its been chronographed spitting 140-grain .277 bullets 3,000 fps. Youll appreciate that kind of performance if you can handle the recoil. Will you be able to handload once-fired cases? You would get about 3,250 fps with the 26 Nosler with 140 grain bullets. One of the most effective elk calibers available. Nearly every elk hunter will care somewhat about the weight of their rifle after a long day of hiking. My impression is that traditionalists will stick with the good old .270 Winchester. Any real or perceived failure of the 7mm Rem. Im convinced these new, heavy bullets elevate the .270s performance on larger game: Similar to the 7mms with like bullet weights; and exceeding the capability of any 6.5mm. As for the .277 SIG Fury, well have to see if current actions are strong enough to safely contain those high pressures. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. Although perhaps not an ideal extreme range cartridge, the .338 shoots surprisingly flat. According to my notes, I've killed 27 elk with a 270. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Question. And realize that after a hunt or choice you might want to choose differently. Ever since Nosler announced that they were coming out with the Nosler 27, I have been thinking I would prefer a Nosler 28. in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. The pieces of the .277 Sig Sauer cartridge are assembled via an internal pressure ring of some kind near the base. Thats excellent performance for a tough animal. Just be aware that shot angles and placement do become critical as bullet mass and energy decline. In comparison a 250-grain slug at 2,600 fps will churn up just 3,750 ft-lb. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. The .338/06 adds about 200 fps muzzle velocity for about two inches less drop at 300 yards and roughly 300 ft-lb more punch. Obviously, there is plenty of leeway in all of this, and personal biases can play a big role. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. because the latter rolls out those wide, .338-inch diameter 250-grain bullets. The 27 Nosler has 32% more case capacity than the .270 Winchester, 22% more than the .270 Winchester Short Magnum and 14% more than the .270 Weatherby. On the contrary, 150-180 grain bullets in 300 Win Mag can hold up to 1000 rounds. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. In local stores, you are unlikely to find anything other than Hornadys Precision Hunter 162-grain ELD-X, or a Noslers 175-grain Trophy Hunter load with an Accubond bullet. It will work but a little much. Hunting elk is hard work. Measured in foot pounds of energy, the .28 Nosler is a powerhouse. of .616 from a 24-inch barrel 3,000 fps and a 190-gr. I tested the new cartridge at the bench in both the Nosler Model 21 and Nosler Model 48 rifles, and was pleased with the results; the 165-grain load averaged just under -MOA, and the 150-grain load just under one-MOA. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. Although decisively effective, this means that it is overpowered for deer. Lots more powder. So, bullet performance and caliber are the measures of killing power at expected shooting ranges. Mag. Heavier bullets. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. Of course that means more energy downrange, less drop, and less wind deflectionwith a bunch more recoil. I further suspect, nay, predict no deer, elk, or bear addressed by any of these is going to like them. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. How much will it cost? To stabilize the new, high B.C. Not sure of performance gains or losses between the two. I handled a sample Cross and it felt precise, tight, remarkably adjustable for fit, and impressively light at just 6.5 pounds, only about 1.5 pounds heavier than the ultralight mountain rifles Ive hunted with the past 30 years. For me, its quite tolerable for shooting up to 30 shots in a practice session and certainly a shot or two for hunting. Obviously velocity is also a ballistics indicator and on the side of the coin, a 400 grain 416 clobbers most anything. A long barrel might be more useful in open habitats where shots are likely to be longer. Selecting your perfect elk caliber hinges on you as well as the elk and the landscapes and habitat in which youll hunt them. The result is a standard setting offering from Nosler that redefines performance as radically now as the 270 Winchester did upon its introduction in 1925. No experience with this specific bullet, but with my .270 I have taken 5 elk (2 bulls, 3 cows) with the 150gr Federal Fusion in factory load. The .30/30, .300 Savage, .30/06, .300 Win. The 28 Nosler adds considerable powder, thus energy, to push the same 175-grain bullet as the 280 AI. Another desirable choice is the also-scarce .358 Winchester, and I took a fine Colorado bull with a Marlin in .338 Marlin Express, a great cartridge. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. Read Next: 10 Great Guns That We Wish Were Still Being Made. I have shot most of my big game with a 270 Win or a 270 WSM. When it first came out in 1962, it sent the then four-year-old .264 Winchester Magnum into a tailspin. A year later, I couldnt be happier with my purchase. Publisher Kevin Steele is in the Beretta booth with Logan Killam, the Shotgun Product Manager, to discuss the all new Beretta A300 Ultima Turkey. And, I know they are going to be pretty similar, but, still, I have to choose one. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. There are some great 7mm bullets! Lots of familiar rifles are chambered for it, ammo is abundant, variable and inexpensive. Sticking with the 8-pound rifle, the 26 Nosler pushing a 142-grain bullet 3,200 fps will recoil 16 fps with nearly 32 f-p energy. After years of the 6.5mm craze, we may be about to witness the .270 rising. Shooters who love the look of AR rifles with folding stocks, adjustable combs and LOP, barrel shrouds, etc. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. .270 Winchester. In other words, unlovely. I have both and have taken all of my fast .30 elk with them. 27 Nosler Load Data If your chosen bullet fails to expand at 1,000 yards, its a poor choice, no matter the energy. Look at ammo cost to either buy or reload, whichever you do. There is a persistent myth flying about that the 7mm Rem Mag shoots too fast. Many claim its bullets dont have time to open. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. The SIG and Nosler both require fast twist rifling to stabilize those long, high B.C. I did as instructed, leveling the crosshair of the Leupold VX-3HD on the onside shoulder, and breaking the trigger of the Nosler Model 21 rifle, sending a 150-grain Nosler AccuBond on its way to make meat. I haven't loaded the 27 nosler. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. Get a closer look at the Nosler M48 Mountain Carbon in 27 Nosler, the latest addition to our #SundayGunday series.For more information, visit https://www.ame. The .27 Nosler works with a larger powder reservoir. The axis doe was at the head of herd, and DonDonwho despite his initial impressions made an excellent guidesimply nudged with his bristled chin and said Two-fifty. Recoil isn't bad and it will lay out the ft/lbs of energy as ways. numbers hitting .590 or so, keep velocities at 3,000 fps with carefully built handloads, and 300-yard drop is only 2.3 inches, wind deflection 4.7 inches, retained energy 2,700 ft-lb. Both have way better bullet selection in better grain weights compared to the 270. Its just too convenient and effective to go away. The elk won't know that the bullet is .007" smaller than the .284". When Winchester came out with this modification of the .30-06 these was no other 27-caliber cartridge in the world. There are several more options if you purchase online or order your loads from a local store, but you should be aware that those who dont reload and purchase from local shops will likely not have many options. Do you feel a 140 grain Barnes TTSX would be suitable for elk? For most big game animals, energy does not kill them. H4350 130 grain Barnes TSX 2980 fps in 22 inch barrel. But elk stopping performance typically comes with a price: recoil. That said, the .284-inch bullet has two advantages. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com) Synonymous with quality hunting ammunition, Nosler shakes things up in the .270 world introducing a new caliber - the 27 . Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. Mag. Many argue this about the .28-calibers, too, but the old 7mm Remington Magnum remains, since its inception in 1962, the most popular and effective 7mm elk caliber in the mountains. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. As is a high energy bullet that blows up upon impact at close range. Let me confess that I, too, consider these best caliber articles overdone and quite subjective, but by hashing them over and over, we gain insights. Some folks will take any attempt to improve the .270 Winchester as a direct insult, yet I disagree: like the .22-250 Remington and .35 Whelen, an improved twist rate can really change the game altogether, and this is exactly what the 27 Nosler has done. The 7 WSM and 7 SAUM just about match it in handier short action rifles. In my situation, I think the tradeoffs of recoil are far outweighed by the positive aspects of the cartridge. Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. This meant the .338 Win. And I write calibers and cartridges because caliber means the diameter of the bore. Clearly that wont quite match the 27 Nosler, but thats not surprising because the .277 SIG Fury case is the same length and diameter as the .308 Winchester. Fully prepped, Nosler premium cartridge brass in 27 Nosler will be available in 25ct boxes. I usually shoot 168 grain Nosler ABLR 160 grain Nosler AB bullets. Video of Elk Being Shot with .28 Noslerif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_13',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Nosler even advertises the .28 Nosler primarily as an elk cartridge. That 160 grain Nosler Partition bullet is perfect for hunting really big game where it's really important to use a heavy, well constructed projectile. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. Well whichever you choose it sounds like you will only be one off. cannot measure up to the .338 Win. arrived in 1958 as a short magnum derived from the .375 H&H belted magnum case. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. . Hit an elk with a 175-gr. X-Vision Optics long-range ImpactThermal Scope (TS300) boasts a 640 x 480 thermal sensor that can detect big game well past 3,000 yards. The .28 Nosler shoots flat and powerfully, but it is expensive to shoot, burns barrels quickly, and has significant recoil. Performance improves. Joined Feb 19, 2010 Messages 3,240 Location GODS COUNTRY IDAHO. Super pressure, if you will. Many elk hunters consider the old .375 H&H the ultimate elk medicine, but not everyone cares to handle their recoil or the kind of rifle mass that tames it. 30 Nosler cases are preferred if forming 27 Nosler cases because of the similar shoulder dimension. Despite these developments, the original .270 Winchester continued to rule the roost. Heres how it performed. I used a 7mm Rem Mag for years, great cartridge. Will you be able to find ammo? bullet like the Swift Scirocco will retain 2,350 ft-lb at 400 yards, 1,500 ft-lb clear out at 600 yards. It will them be 3.0 inches high at 260 yards and 3.0 inches low at about 326 yards. Trm82 said: I have one getting chambered right now in 27 nosler . This will be for shooting mono-metal bullets mostly for elk hunting. Comparing this with the 160- and 175-grain bullets of the 7mm bore diameter, and it isnt hard to see that advantage of the slightly larger bore diameter. Ditto rifle size. We have an embarrassment of choices in 7mms, and elk dont like any. He is a well-known entrepreneur, having started many successful online brands, and lives in St George, Utah. Weatherbys .300 magnum had been dazzling magnum fans since the mid 1940s, but it was a full-length magnum caliber available only in expensive custom or Weatherby Rifles. Elk carry enough venison on the hoof to suggest a big cartridge and big bullet. Design evolves. Commissions are earned for links to Brownell's, Amazon, MidwayUSA, GoHunt, OpticsPlanet, Sportsman's Warehouse, and other retailers. In the past, you had to handload to get these, but long-range shooters have created sufficient demand that many ammo makers now offer factory ammo featuring bullets heavier than 200-grains. Mag. The size of elk also varies. Introducing the Veracity PH from Burris, the perfect combination of reliability, quality, and technology delivering a simple aiming solutiona tool for the hunter that just works. bullet makes it easier to hit should you misjudge the range. The right bullet in the right place. The .30-06 may not be an extreme range cartridge, but it is capable for the shooting most of us would do. But I also have a 6-foot 2-inch 20-something friend who climbs with a little 6.5 Creedmoor and lays out 66 bulls with single shots at 400 yards. Your email address will not be published. Two of the newest entrants into this category, the .28 Nosler and the .300 PRC. Because of lower pressure and achieving full velocity with less powder, the .30-06 has less felt recoil than a 7mm Remington Magnum. The 22, 26, 27, 28, 30, and 32 Noslers. AccuBond Long Range or a comparable bullet with its high B.C. May 28, 2019 By Layne Simpson. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is with Dawn Wehunt of Rock River Arms INC. learning about the new Ascendant platform. Okay, but minimal. Okay, but minimal. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Mag. But up close, you notice a custom upgrade that allows this piece of machinery to do [], Citing the critical importance of elk, deer and other big game migration corridors, winter range and other vital habit, the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation urged [], West Virginias elk herd continues to grow and biologists are doing the best they can to monitor the populations health, size, movements and habitat use.