I am glad you enjoy your EdenPURE heater. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. There not trying to rip you off or scam you. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. But using ANY space heater will lower your heating bill if you turn your thermostat down! Press the space key then arrow keys to make a selection. Also the actual cost for Endenpure gen 4 is $397 (2010 cost) refurbished 374.00 so there are models that are returned for a savings $23.00. Saying you might cut your heating bill in half is a lie. I have used these and recommended (I'm an electrician/contractor) the inexpensive ones to people who have cold spots in their larger rooms (rec rooms, basement, master bedroom) with good results, but if you think a 1500 watt 5000 BTU electric heater will keep any 1000 either square foot or cubic foot space a comfortable 70 degrees, you're dreaming, especially if the temp is below 40 degrees. Everybody is forsale for a price Even BOB VILLA. Is anyone anymore really honest? I don't care who it ripping me off if I am getting ripped off. The facade is added over the top without touching except for where fastened. Heat is the movement of air molecules. I would not recommend this product to anyone who is trying to save money while trying to stay warm. Let me first say, I have been praiseing the Edenpure for about 6 years. I finally find the place and they said i only had 30 days warranty not 60 days. I ordered my heater on the 14th of Dec. and was told that it would not take more than 14 days (what a joke)I started calling around the first of January and I could not get anyone on the phone. He had to pay 25 bucks to ship it. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 08, 2011: Don, that is why I recommend buying through Amazon so you have their return policy protection. His school plays football in the shadow of North. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. And Sylvania's bulb life testing, like all other lamp manufacturers, is performed in still air with infrequent on/off cycles (once a day to once a week). the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) We have the 1000, and the 1000XL, the are the first ones. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. Any electric heater is 100% efficient. It is the wrong measurement for electric heat. I starting contacting the company and finally did receive a return shipping label. Design in an electric heater is everything. Heat from #2 fuel oil burning furnace will cost you $33.25 for 1 million btus, if you are paying $3.58 per gallon. He claimed that in 1997, while outside the governor's office in Austin, he overheard a conversation about "wanting to bury George W. Bush's Vietnam service record". This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. Now she is crying the blues because she could have applied the outrageous price of the heaters and their exhorbitant use of electricity, to her regular heat bill. With the cost of propane today at over $5.49/gal anything you can do to offset propane useage is a ++++++. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . I purchased a gen4 2 months ago and could not find I was saving any money since Im all electric.I have notified the co I want to return the heater for a refund and they keep giving me the run around about sending me an RMA and the prepaid UPS slip to ship the unit back to them.after reading some of the other complaints I'm wandering if I will ever get a slip. This heater will warm almost my entire upstairs, 1250 sq ft. Today, I had my central heat heat on 64 to try to save $$$ on my electricity. I took a look at these today in a True Value store. Keep up the good work EdenPURE! That claim of a 20,000 bulb life in an Edenpure heater is completely false. No more, no less. Save 80 percent off EdenPUREs cost by using a competitors brand. When the heating fuel prices were high, Quartz heaters helped by heating the rooms you lived in during the day and so the funace runs less. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. It is a 20 x 15, a pretty decent size room. Im just another sucker. I was going to buy an edenpure because I am a senior citizen and in winter my light bill is out of sight but reading all the negative comments, NO THANKS! No repairs either. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. Any way, thank you. Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. Since you heat all the air, nor just the first 12 inches off the floor, cubic feet measurments are required. Was informed that my order was not in the system as of yet, was instructed to call back after 24 hrs. Gas burners are a hazard in a barn with hay even if only in a side utility room. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. Consider Choosing a Different Electric Heater. The heating element inside every electric heater is . What else can I do? In some situations yes but in some no. i have one, and believe me it has paid for itself, i have hot water heat powered by natural gas. Once again use your heads and think about what you need. I was told that they were still processing my order and that it would have been sent out this week (SURE). Staffing and Recruiting. First is that your heating plant is grossly inefficient and that your heating ducts practically are routed outside the house to heat the outside before coming back inside. In Feb of 08 I had to order replacement bulbs, they cost $59.00 for the 1000. These are the dimensions of a jail cell, not a room. But, although our gas savings decreased our electric usage went up and we noticed about a $4 a month savings. I don't know where you get your sources, but you need to learn to integrate less bias if you expect anyone to believe you. I have read some very interesting posts on this website and one thing I can tell you is, you can spot the smart persons from the not so smart persons. Other heaters I've used don't keep the rooms warm because the controls don't allow the versatility that the EdenPure does. [2] Fan heaters are the cheapest, but are often the least efficient and versatile. They can be made of solid fabric or in the case of honeycomb (cellular) shades can be a blend of paper, lace, and/or fabrics. Thanks for the good info that saved me. Have sent emails to their c/s area but they never respond. "CBS Guard Documents Traced to Tex. The problem lays, as always, in Sales and Marketing (or Greed and Misleading), that makes EdenPure a hype from the cost vs.value point of view. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. Electric space heaters fall into four main categories: fan heaters, ceramic, infrared, and oil-filled. CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. Doubled Electric bill, no effect on gas consuption. Bigger homes and those in colder climates cost. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. I first spent a few dollars on insulation(extra)it paid off! I have ran both units and can say for 100% certainty that my $39.99 radiator heater heated as well if not better than the Edenpure unit (neither put out enough heat to adequately heat my basement). Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. One of the most important features and benefits of the Eden Pure vs one of the $50 that may heat the same space I would not trust most of those $50 heaters or anything that can be turned over easily and I certainly would never leave my home with one of those heaters on. Ventilation Fans. Heat Pumps are the most cost saving product other than using a fireplace.The japanese use several heatpumps to heat their homes they use one system for living room another for bedrooms this helps lower energy bills. They said they could not do a refund because it was past the 60 days and I said I thought the 60 day thing was for the smart people that decided they didn't want it, not for a DEFECTIVE product of which I have received 2 in a row.Anyway they refused to refund my money so I guess I'm just stuck with this piece of junk. Both heated equal areas in comparable ways, even though the Lasko only costs about $50. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. I tried to return the heater and it has been a running around to find the right place where I purchased it from. ELECTRICAL ENGINEER on December 16, 2012: First of all, 120vac appliances are very inefficient compared to 220vac. Nice flat spot for debris. This has been disputed. [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. The documents, purported to have been typed in the early 1970s, were likely produced many years later with a computer using Microsoft Word on default settings. You still need them. Thank you so much! Would i buy this. I'm paying $0.17 per KWH, or $2.04 for an 8 hour run per day. If you read it carefully, it never really claims that the Eden Pure heater is a miraculous heat source. Most of these testimonials are not of much use. they sent me a RFH one it can to me in pieces they back cover was broken in several pieces. I forgot to point out in my other post that I also analyze forced-air systems in commercial bldgs and leaky ductwork systems are sometimes the reason along with poor airflow/clogged filters. Buyer beware. It is great for days like today when the chill was just too much in the house, but it is not something you want to use consistently during the day and night. Commercial Boilers. Space heater with pretreated heat exchanger Patent number: 7046918 We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. You don't need an EdenPURE product to close vents around your home, not in use. Lucinda from Michigan on December 03, 2012: I got my 1st heater in nov.20011 and used it for 5 months and up for the summer I got it out on oct.25 20012. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) If you were to carefully cover up where air is coming into the hair dryer and feel the front it would get much hotter maybe still not as hot as the heat gun because it has built in overload protection and it will shut off by the time it gets that hot otherwise it might hurt some people. is too low you end up, cutting in a supply grill to bring the temp. I would rather have on sweats, even with another shirt under and be comfortable with my $200. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. Zero marketing at that point. I have a completely electric home and wanted to reduce my electric bill as it is very high now. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. Issues of safety, durability, and return on investment must be considered before purchasing one of the most expensive portable infrared heaters on the market. We have really high ceilings. Have tried it a few times since after unplugging it and the same thing happens, it will run for just a couple of minutes and it dies. The machine shot out sparks. Complain all you want the heater works well. I love it. Energy savings will be the same either way. The air leaks are what causes a large waste of energy. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. Before eden pure electric bill $75.00 and Propane bill (75 gals per month/2.99 = 224.25. total monthly costs $299.25, After eden pure electric bill $135.00 and Propane bill (25 gals per month/2.99= 74.75 total monthly costs $209.75, $347.00 for new Gen4, pays for self in 3.87 months, Don't care about all you "stats" just what my check book says, and it tells me the Eden Pure is working for me :))). Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Put an infrared heater in your bedroom. A well designed heater can produce far more heated CFM than a poorly designed heater. Out of stock at this time though. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. This actually makes their heater less efficient. All of your honest comments and reviews have just saved me from making a huge and costly mistake. Love my EdenPURE heater! Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. Second, it does not have any fan that blows hot air into your room, along with all dust and mites that you inhale, getting allergies and respiratory problems. It seems the less expensive ones will not last as long (20,000hrs vs 80,000hrs, for the more expensive. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. Unfortunately, most don't pay enough attention or don't care about the consumer. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. Still use the Edin pure in our basement vs, electric baseboard and it works fine. Common sense. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. I was at the UPS store today watching an old guy trying to return one of those pieces of junk. I was just about to order an edenpure heater. I have purchased Eden pure heaters 1 is 2 years old and the fan motor is shot and one of the tubes is burned out. Get notified about new Tester jobs in Ranst, Flemish Region, Belgium. Cold in Northern Alberta on February 25, 2011: If you want negative comments about this heater , a simple Google search will fulfill your needs. Out performs? Buyer beware ! I borrowed a friends EdenPure 1000. This biographical article related to the United States military is a stub. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! Its only ment to heat up a small area with a person in it. Nothing wrong with EdenPure technology, it is credible, and the heater is as good as any other similar purpose heater (I only have hard time accepting its "ancient" design). If not there could be an additional charge etc,. And yes the personal heater that heats 50 s f is only the size Of a prison cell. A few comments are concerned with my personal experience with EdenPURE. Besides I came to the conclusion that you really don't save anything with them anyway. There has got to be heat loss, because travels a long distance from the furnace ouside to the farthest point. I called the company so I could exchane it but I have to pay shipping. I know I would not. Sign in to create job alert. CLAIM: With other heating sources, you'll notice you get sleepy because they are burning up oxygen. Bill Burkett has filed for patents to protect the following inventions. The best way to save money (in the long run), is to not only comply with your electricity company replacing things in your home that will give you a lower rate per kwh. [5], Burkett's claims about the origins of the documents have since changed several times. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. etc. Now if your heating a whole home that uses gas or electric and close off several rooms and used the eden pure to heat a few rooms, sure you will save money. If you need a space heater and you want to needlessly make someone rich by buying something over-priced, by all means go with the Eden. I don't doubt people are saving money using the Eden Pure heater because "zone heating"I has to save money by not heating unused areas. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. If I was Bob Vila I would not put my name on the product if they cannot get anyone to anwser the customer service number or even return your calls. BTW, I did see a DuraFlame (the maker of the duraflame logs) had a heater with a description that was practically identical to the EdenPure and it was only approximately $225. Common applications include space heating, cooking, water heating and industrial processes. You can put a sheet of copper in front of your heater and buffer the heat with an electric heater. Poor Rita still doesn't get that cubic feet is the area that you have to heat, in a room. i.e. There are none so blind as those who will not see. Also in the month I ran the Edenpure unit I saw an increase of about 8% on my electric bill versus the radiator unit. Since the same heater at Amazon is under $100 my guess is they lowered their price to compete better. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. If your 40,000 btu furnace is 80% efficient, it is releasing into your house 32,000 btus WHEN IT IS RUNNING. i bought an eden pure heater for both myself and my elderly father and neither one will turn on after the first few times we used them with the screen flashing "not level" even though i used a level to verify they were sitting level .unfortunately this issue was not discovered until the start of the second year of use. They were not meant to be used in that manner. Dose the Edenpure save you money? Always open. Since heat is really part of the light spectrum, reflecting it back into the home has value. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. I am very comfortable with leaving the Eden Pure on at night and while I am away so when I return, the house is not cold, plus I have the assurance that my pets are not going to be burned or turn over a smaller, lighter heater burning them and possibly burning the house down. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. I remodeled a mobile home and replaced the insulation and added drywall. The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. I called customer service and they sent me a prepaid shipping label to return it and they sent me another one. Sorry folks, some things I forgot to point out One item that they point out in the Bob Vila scam (I can't call it anything but!) They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. Qualifying programs are: Capacity Bidding Program (CBP)* - available for residential customers. Of course, it seems that would use more electricity, but some of you just don't read the material correctly or don't read it at all.
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