Prisoners ist ein US-amerikanischer Spielfilm aus dem Jahr 2013 unter der Regie von Denis Villeneuve. I hope this was helpful. And yeah, Ralph is definitely a prisoner. He could be Hollys husband, thats true. State Representative Holly Jones, a Republican, represents part of St. Louis County (District 88) in the Missouri House of Representatives. The Bob Taylor detail was one I didnt include in why response. Reporter: Heather Hiscox, from The National, December 19 and Canada Now, December 19-23, 2003. It seems to be a male figure and not Holly, either. How fitting we have a character named Grace, a word typically associated with Gods favor. What ending do we choose? Sat, 21 Jun 2003. Alex Jones is Paul Sandow's older brother; Crimes & Criminals; Canon-Typical Violence; Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault; Alex Is A Good Brother; Alex & Loki have an unlikely partnership; Slow Burn; That kind of foreshadowing is done for a reason. Maybe the newspaper article was premature (but then why show it)? When Lokis at the priests house, he sees the mark on the floor where the refrigerator gets moved in order to access the secret door to the hidden basement. Then you will see that what Im saying is absolutely true. It was probably a promotional piece to go with the book because it doesnt look homemade. It made writing the piece very cathartic. A symbol that we can hear each other if we listen from inside. We only learn that the items have been bought. Thats why all Alex can eventually muster, even when its his life on the line, is, Theyre in the maze.. Because Holly cant steal children easily on her own, fewer children go missing. The justification given by Keller Snr. Alias Their pain turns to anger at God, as such tragedy must have been His will. Possible, but as a main oremise it seems a bit thin. At first, we might think it applies to the abduction of Joy and Anna. All as a best imitation of his abductors. And now he kind of re-creates this moment. No thats not what happened. Norse mythologys climax is Ragnarok, where gods fight giants and everyone dies. I dont think its entirely unrealistic. While Alex is a victim, he can be a dick. Holly Deane-Jones lived in cell with 120 women A convicted drug trafficker who spent years in a Thailand jail has opened up on her time sharing a cell with 120 other women and eating food with. Kidnapping Serial Killer. And what are the benefits or consequences of his doubt? And the hidden basement with the hole in the ground. Pearl, MS 39208. Or that hell never make a mistake. Enter the letters and numbers from the image: Please note -- this site only provides general search information. And the imprisoned Alex Jones eventually tells his captor that the girls are, In the maze.. The filmmaking is great. Loved your summary and analysis! The pause on Netflix is infuriating. But he is stuck in that child-like mentality and he did know what was going to happen to those kids, like he did with so many others. Devoid of humor, just not especially real. I thought that Holly was the best performance, a bit melodramatic, but very creepy and a smooth transition from Auntie to Killer. One has the last name Dover. We know hes still traumatized by what happened but not that hes necessarily still in contact with Holly or does Hollys bidding. Especially in a building that has so many issues. We see many crosses. Why does that trigger a flashback where she thinks he was there? Lights: Buildings usually have power broken into sections. The final song on the album is called Duckworth. Prisoners is about spirituality and the complicated nature we have with spirituality. Thanks! And that ignited in her a hatred of God. That whole torture subplot is like a twisted form of repentance. I thought it was. (Though it is mentioned it was a small accident, and that Alex was merely afraid of them.) document.getElementById( "ak_js_3" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. and feels all is well in my life. Cheers, Youd worry that hed maybe keep trying to do take kids. Keller needs someone to find him and pull him out of that pit, but he also needs that whistle thats only down there because his daughter was down there because she got kidnapped looking for it, though he gave it to her for her rescue so many months or years ago. Full Name Another similar piece of the puzzle which is teased to us In addition to this part of her routine was the large bottles of mysterious drink; addressed when keller is held at gunpoint and made to drink a third of the bottle. We then have Bob Taylor being obsessed with mazes and the FBI agents book detailing how the child abductor dubbed the Invisible Man had used mazes. So when Loki discovers Alex, Holly is making Keller her prisoner. She heads to where she is hiding Anna and plans to kill her and taunt Keller by throwing her dead body into the hole with him. The main villain is in a war against the Christian God, while the hero is named after a god of Norse mythology. Instead, he draws a maze. Also known as: infinity. I watched it a few years later and now 2021, the movie was on my Netflix suggestions pool, I was half in for watching it and I didnt.. woke up today and first thing was to figure out the story. How could Keller have been there too? The soul. This is the father of Alex or Bob Taylor. Powers / Skills and if so, I guess its just coincidence that Hollys husband had a maze around his neck and that they left mazes in the locked room? A god who complicates things for other gods. Thats the only way he can communicate to Loki where the girls might be, what happened to him, etc. She has no problem with killing or torturing, even children as per her M.O., and seems to embrace this side of her. Can you explain the girls flashback when she sees Keller? Not to mention how tattoos relate to paganism and Norse culture. Alex is in a similar situation. The next thing I remember is the detectives discussing giving Holly notice about Alex. I imagine it would have taken some time to make the connection to Hollys husband, if it was ever possible to do so. You want that for her? Thats Bob Taylor, one of the many children Holly and her husband had abducted. None of us really wanted to do that version, but we wanted to make sure we had it in case once the film was put together it seemed like it really needed it. Thanks. Yeah, I like the mixture of Christian and Norse. holly jones prisoners. There are characters named Grace and Joy. Duration: 10m 29s. So his full name only reinforces the combination of religions. Excellent insight, Jasmine! Holly and her husband, who used to be fundamentalist believers, might have practised snake-handling as part of their faith and would have kept snakes for that purpose. Denis Villeneuve's "Prisoners" does not go that route. Got it (which is why Keller finds it in the hole at the end). 100 Belmont-Mt. But theres a common association with a snake eating its own tail, also known as the Ouroboros. Thats usually associated with the idea of the endless loop. Though, as the movies ends before Loki saves Keller, that sense of catharsis is something Prisoners denies us. What will it do to their friendship? They said specifically that the DNA and dental records came back with no match. The girls went to Annas home to find her whistle. So while Grace may seem like a simple name, its not. And they are linked with this idea of necessary violence.. etc. People cant accept freedom, they cant accept loss. Damn, its such a good movie. Also loved seeing ppl comment on this masterpiece of a movie from so long ago. So Alex wanted to meet he again and played the game. But they probably dont sprint like that. Theres an FBI book about a serial abductor who was obsessed with mazes. Some people may follow the clues and put 2 and 2 together. I am impressed by how you have dissected each and every detail down to the meaning of the characters names. How did the FBI agent know about the mazes?? Just one quick question, why the hunting scene at the beginning? I believe they say that Alex often drove the van and looked at his old house? The disappearance of Holly Jones Holly left home at 6:00 PM while it was still daylight, but as the darkness grew, her parents, Maria Jones and George Stonehouse, became concerned. Armed with a hidden gun, Keller heads to see Holly, but she soon learns he knows she kidnapped the girls and prepares her own revolver, which she aims at him upon arrival without hesitation once he voices he knows the truth. The American's boxing career came to a juddering halt in 1992 when he was sentenced to six years in prison after being convicted of rape in Indiana. So when TD robbed the place, he didnt shoot Kendricks dad. So the star on Det. Thanks again! Loki saw Anna wearing the whistle at the hospital so he asked Grace if she found it, but Grace told him that Anna kept insisting that Joy helped her finding the whistle before they were kidnapped but Grace thought she was just confused so she bought her a new one. I guess its a glass of water situation. Be really hard to find. Find latests mugshots and bookings from Abilene and other local cities. So does. Emotional imprisonment: the disappearance of Anna and Joy emotionally devastates the Dover and Birch families. In the characters of Taylor & Alex, I agree with your accurate explanations that they are unable to speak & frozen by cognitive dissonance & being unable to speak of something as cosmicaly horrific as being abducted & what follows. To put it another way, not only are they unable to speak, but they speak in a completely different language. When Loki finds the body in the priests basement, the priest/father explains the man came to confess and spoke proudly about killing 16 children. And what do you know, at the end of the movie, Kellers imprisoned by Holly Jones, Alexs aunt. Hey! I've heard that the Prison is actually closing down. Both Taylor and Alex are old enough that they could physically move beyond what happened to them. Holly Jones (Prisoners) Keller Dover; Please check the notes for additional warnings! Alex just took the girls for a ride, and Holly decided to abduct them. The article mentions that his co-worker Mr Dover didnt make any comments. And maybe a tad under utilized. Buddy Holly was a singer songwriter from Lubbock Texas who died after a short 18 month career. a deconstruction of individuality in a consumer-driven culture, Their sonstill a childdies, causing them tremendous grief. Because its complicated. Keller tells Ralph he isnt allowed to leave the house, he has to be an adult stay home and make sure Grace doesnt see the news. I think the film supports it by not having Bob Taylor or the girls talk either. Like Taylor, Alex is both influenced by his abductor and struggling to speak on something that is too terrible to express. Its like the negotiating tactic of not saying anything. Kendricks dad had always given Top Dawg extra biscuits on the house. People need people and people need grace. He says hes checking 9 of them. This explanation also doesnt hold together. I love the part where Keller sits next to Alex torture cell and cant finish his prayer at the sentence: and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, he holds back the last part, breaking at as we. The length contributes to your analysis of the compounding effects of abduction over time, depicted in the varying lengths of how long they spent in the maze Joy seems the most available afterwards, but Anna is more slow to integrate; then Taylor, who is surprisingly capable (has a house, quite a capable thief, etc) while still being extremely myopic and distressed; and Alex, who is the mostly deeply shut off from the world. I didnt think Maria Bello was good either. Birch was also interesting as a name because birch trees are thought to be resilient, bending but not breaking. Residence: Asheville. He needs grace and so does Lokihe relies heavy on his ability to observe and pay attention to details. I find this often ruins performances for me; in this case, not awful, just distracting; and despite all of the cursing and yelling and punching, I just didnt buy it. As a forensic psychologist I also question the alleged motives of some of Alexs and Taylors actions. Mark Bridger, the former abattoir worker jailed for the sexually motivated murder of five-year-old April Jones, has been attacked in prison. How David is very Christian/Jewish/Biblical while Loki is very Norse. Thanks, Warren! Or Barry. The other couple was fine, both solid performances. Huntley, a former school caretaker killed schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman in 2002 after they went missing from a family BBQ. Actually, now that I think about it, it is possible that Holly was in fact trying to kill Anna by administering a lethal dose of opiates in that scene, since she would have realized by that point that she was at high risk of being caught by other parties. Cornton Vale I believe. And the girl had been drugged. By leaving that choice in our hands, the film becomes a moment of reflection, of confrontation. The question is will he put it all together and solve the puzzle? I just finished watching the movie and was looking for an explanation, and this is just amazing, thank you for your analysis and thanks for all the comments, what an incredible movie. But before we see him decide to investigate or leavethe movie ends. This is reinforced later by Joys struggles to explain what had happened to her, only able to look at Keller and say, You were there. Ill watch again with a fresh mind. Political party: Democrat. That they represent Holly, right, as a tempter. That says a lot about his mental state, the degree of Stockholm Syndrome hes experiencing. Theres a second Alex in Prisoners. | Back in the 80s, Holly Jones and her husband are devout Christians. What fate for Keller do we accept? Even though you assume thats whats probably going to happen, I like that theres a small chance that hes not going to get him out of there for whatever reason.. So its unlikely she suddenly appeared and seized the girls. Germanic paganism/mythology (of which Norse is an offshoot) put great symbolic importance on trees and forests and stones. The profound trauma capable of changing the intrinsic nature of a person, their beliefs, their language. There are SO many other examples of this in the film! Obsessively drawing mazes on the walls because he cant stop reading an FBI agents book about the mysterious child abductor, known as the Invisible Man, who was never caught (and who was actually Holly and her husband). Which led to Kellers survival mindset. Something like that. He is told a third of that should do for a man of your size and that it is her husbands old secret recipe. Kidnapping thrillers often lull us into a sense of safety in the opening sequences, showing the normal rhythms of life that will soon be shattered.